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		<title>Comment on Testing vs. Checking by Badri</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2009/08/testing-vs-checking/comment-page-2/#comment-10501</link>
		<dc:creator>Badri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael , 

You made a excellant point!.You actually nailed the difference between checking and testing.</description>
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<p>You made a excellant point!.You actually nailed the difference between checking and testing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Not Close This Window (Or Click The Back Button) by Weekly Article Links #7 &#171; Practical Tips on Software Testing</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2012/02/do-not-close-this-window/comment-page-1/#comment-10492</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Article Links #7 &#171; Practical Tips on Software Testing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Usability: “The customer is always right” Usability Testing Summary Template Do Not Close This Window (Or Click The Back Button) [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Do Not Close This Window (Or Click The Back Button) by QA Hates You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You Don&#8217;t Let Your Developers Do It, And Here&#8217;s Why</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2012/02/do-not-close-this-window/comment-page-1/#comment-10423</link>
		<dc:creator>QA Hates You &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You Don&#8217;t Let Your Developers Do It, And Here&#8217;s Why</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here&#8217;s a good blog post taking them apart [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Do Not Close This Window (Or Click The Back Button) by Five Blogs – 9 February 2012 &#171; 5blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2012/02/do-not-close-this-window/comment-page-1/#comment-10367</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Blogs – 9 February 2012 &#171; 5blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blog: Do Not Close This Window (Or Click The Back Button) Written by: Michael Bolton [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Do Not Close This Window (Or Click The Back Button) by Darren McMillan</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2012/02/do-not-close-this-window/comment-page-1/#comment-10359</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren McMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Michael, there is always other scenarios to be considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Michael, there is always other scenarios to be considered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do Not Close This Window (Or Click The Back Button) by Darren McMillan</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2012/02/do-not-close-this-window/comment-page-1/#comment-10345</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren McMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if I change my mind?

Most sites payment processes goes through a third party and most of the time you&#039;ll find that your carefully selected shopping cart is cleared if you change your mind once it hits that 3rd party service.

&lt;em&gt;Michael replies: Yes, sometimes it is cleared&#8212;and sometimes it isn&#039;t, too.  I went through a similar transaction yesterday, somewhat different from my wife&#039;s experience.  For me, there was a default limit on the amount of money I could pay through my bank, so my first attempt to pay didn&#039;t complete successfully.  I contacted my bank and raised the default.  Then I went through the payment process again.  Just in time, I noticed that the shopping cart &lt;strong&gt;hadn&#039;t been&lt;/strong&gt; cleared, and my order and my payment were doubled.  If I hadn&#039;t noticed this, I can&#039;t imagine the grief I might have gone through&#8212;having to find the department to issue a refund, a non-trivial delay in processing the refund and crediting the account, a possible overdraft for that account...

So, another item to add to the list:&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;What happens if the customer makes an excessive or extra payment?  How will that get resolved?&lt;/strong&gt;

Most 3rd party API&#039;s don&#039;t cater for this either, hence why I&#039;ve always thought it is essential that testers get involved in the early API design process, so we can spot the &quot;what if&quot; scenarios like this.  

Sadly we don&#039;t play a part in the design of the 3rd party services we choose.

&lt;em&gt;True... but we might play a part in the choice of those third-party services.  Are managers aware of the help that we can offer there?&lt;/em&gt;

Very nice post, thanks for sharing Michael.

&lt;em&gt;And thank you for your comment.&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if I change my mind?</p>
<p>Most sites payment processes goes through a third party and most of the time you&#8217;ll find that your carefully selected shopping cart is cleared if you change your mind once it hits that 3rd party service.</p>
<p><em>Michael replies: Yes, sometimes it is cleared&mdash;and sometimes it isn&#8217;t, too.  I went through a similar transaction yesterday, somewhat different from my wife&#8217;s experience.  For me, there was a default limit on the amount of money I could pay through my bank, so my first attempt to pay didn&#8217;t complete successfully.  I contacted my bank and raised the default.  Then I went through the payment process again.  Just in time, I noticed that the shopping cart <strong>hadn&#8217;t been</strong> cleared, and my order and my payment were doubled.  If I hadn&#8217;t noticed this, I can&#8217;t imagine the grief I might have gone through&mdash;having to find the department to issue a refund, a non-trivial delay in processing the refund and crediting the account, a possible overdraft for that account&#8230;</p>
<p>So, another item to add to the list:</em></p>
<p><strong>What happens if the customer makes an excessive or extra payment?  How will that get resolved?</strong></p>
<p>Most 3rd party API&#8217;s don&#8217;t cater for this either, hence why I&#8217;ve always thought it is essential that testers get involved in the early API design process, so we can spot the &#8220;what if&#8221; scenarios like this.  </p>
<p>Sadly we don&#8217;t play a part in the design of the 3rd party services we choose.</p>
<p><em>True&#8230; but we might play a part in the choice of those third-party services.  Are managers aware of the help that we can offer there?</em></p>
<p>Very nice post, thanks for sharing Michael.</p>
<p><em>And thank you for your comment.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on What Exploratory Testing Is Not (Part 4):  Quick Tests by sunil</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2011/12/what-exploratory-testing-is-not-part-4-quick-tests/comment-page-1/#comment-10343</link>
		<dc:creator>sunil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post.Thanks for useful info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post.Thanks for useful info.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Project Estimation and Black Swans (Part 1) by The Seven Basic Principles of the Context-Driven School – part two &#171; the testing curve</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Seven Basic Principles of the Context-Driven School – part two &#171; the testing curve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] estimate&#8217;. (See the idea of black swans and the known unknown vs the unknown unknown, or this set of blog posts by Michael Bolton.) Now why would our model be wrong? Assuming we&#8217;re not clinging on to some [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on What Exploratory Testing Is Not (Part 4):  Quick Tests by Management Skills and Styles Assessment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Management Skills and Styles Assessment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Management Skills and Styles Assessment...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]What Exploratory Testing Is Not (Part 4): Quick Tests &#171; Developsense Blog[...]...</description>
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<p>[...]What Exploratory Testing Is Not (Part 4): Quick Tests &laquo; Developsense Blog[...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Do Some Testers Find The Critical Problems? by Lorena</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2011/02/why-do-some-testers-find-the-critical-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-10317</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lorena...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]Why Do Some Testers Find The Critical Problems? &#171; Developsense Blog[...]...</description>
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<p>[...]Why Do Some Testers Find The Critical Problems? &laquo; Developsense Blog[...]&#8230;</p>
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