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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2006/02/simplest-things-can-possibly-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, George...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the comment.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Note that I didn&#039;t claim that STTCPW is an XP principle.  Nor did I claim that STTCPW was anything good or bad, but rather that STTCPW was being presented &lt;i&gt;by some&lt;/i&gt; as an excuse for sloppy work.  My complaint is not with STsTCPW; I tend to like STsTCPW.  My complaint is with the idea being co-opted by the sloppy or the lazy, thus bringing a good idea into disrepute by association. So I would respectfully dispute the idea that I&#039;ve fallen for myths; I&#039;m just disappointed and angered by those who are giving good ideas a bad name.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;re straw men; they do exist, and I think they should be criticized fearlessly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way, I&#039;m at Agile 2006 as I write this, and I&#039;m greatly encouraged by the spirit of many of the people I&#039;ve met here.  I hasten to note that they&#039;re not the ones I&#039;m talking about in this posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, George&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>Note that I didn&#8217;t claim that STTCPW is an XP principle.  Nor did I claim that STTCPW was anything good or bad, but rather that STTCPW was being presented <i>by some</i> as an excuse for sloppy work.  My complaint is not with STsTCPW; I tend to like STsTCPW.  My complaint is with the idea being co-opted by the sloppy or the lazy, thus bringing a good idea into disrepute by association. So I would respectfully dispute the idea that I&#8217;ve fallen for myths; I&#8217;m just disappointed and angered by those who are giving good ideas a bad name.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re straw men; they do exist, and I think they should be criticized fearlessly.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m at Agile 2006 as I write this, and I&#8217;m greatly encouraged by the spirit of many of the people I&#8217;ve met here.  I hasten to note that they&#8217;re not the ones I&#8217;m talking about in this posting.</p>
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		<title>By: George Dinwiddie</title>
		<link>http://www.developsense.com/blog/2006/02/simplest-things-can-possibly-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes--Sloppy work under the guise of the Simplest Thing That Could Possibly Work.  I&#039;ve seen that, and it results from the same misapprehension about what STTCPW means as that presented here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;First, it&#039;s not one of the XP Principles (which I have listed at &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://idiacomputing.com/moin/XpPrinciples&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Xp Principles&lt;/a&gt;), though it related to Assume Simplicity, and perhaps to Small Initial Investment and Concrete Experiments.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Second, the point of the Simplest Thing exhortation is to avoid over-engineering things up front.  The term Simplest is not related to Easiest, in this context.  It&#039;s not about avoiding boundary cases.  It&#039;s not about neglecting resource management.  It &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; about thinking--thinking about what your requirements are today rather than what they might be in the future.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Michael, I think you have fallen for the same myths you deplore.  This article would mostly be railing at a strawman, were it not for one brilliant sentence.  &lt;i&gt;&quot;The common element between Bad Traditionalist processes and Bad Agile Processes is that both want to remove that irritating thinking part.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  That truly is the failing in so many endeavors that go wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes&#8211;Sloppy work under the guise of the Simplest Thing That Could Possibly Work.  I&#8217;ve seen that, and it results from the same misapprehension about what STTCPW means as that presented here.</p>
<p>First, it&#8217;s not one of the XP Principles (which I have listed at <a HREF="http://idiacomputing.com/moin/XpPrinciples" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Xp Principles</a>), though it related to Assume Simplicity, and perhaps to Small Initial Investment and Concrete Experiments.</p>
<p>Second, the point of the Simplest Thing exhortation is to avoid over-engineering things up front.  The term Simplest is not related to Easiest, in this context.  It&#8217;s not about avoiding boundary cases.  It&#8217;s not about neglecting resource management.  It <b>is</b> about thinking&#8211;thinking about what your requirements are today rather than what they might be in the future.</p>
<p>Michael, I think you have fallen for the same myths you deplore.  This article would mostly be railing at a strawman, were it not for one brilliant sentence.  <i>&#8220;The common element between Bad Traditionalist processes and Bad Agile Processes is that both want to remove that irritating thinking part.&#8221;</i>  That truly is the failing in so many endeavors that go wrong.</p>
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